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Huddic boy in national skirt by yuni Huddic boy in national skirt by yuni
A young man from Hudja wearing a jubaq, the national skirt that Huddic youth have to wear during their entire childhood and adolescence.

The belt is supposed to be slightly tightened around a child's waist at the age of 3, the way that is comfortable for the child, thus at the time it doesn't reduce the waist at all. However, the belt's size must remain the same until the person turns 25 and being worn permanently it forces the innards to shift below the waistline, while the person's stomach and kidneys move closer to the diaphragm. Usually at the age of around 10-12 due to the lack of space, the waistline is already clear of all the organs except the small intestine, the backbone, veins and other minor things.

At the age of 25 the person is considered an adult and is legally allowed to take off the jubaq, so not wearing a jubaq is the main sign of adulthood in Hudja. In case a boy becomes an apprentice of a priest and later a monk, he keeps wearing his jubaq during his entire monkhood as a symbol of innocence.



Okay, maybe I should stop watching the Discovery Channel...


:star: Apparently because of the phrase above many people thought Hudja is a real country. Well, it's just a fantasy country I made up and of course all its traditions are fictional as well.



EDIT: Changed the "maturity" age from 20 to 25 based on the comment: [link]



EDIT 2: A bit of extra details...

The world record is 13 inches on an adult woman. It's incredibly small, probably even smaller than in this drawing, and she started to train when she was already over 40. So it proves that it's at least physically possible without affecting the blood flow and digestion.

But here we have a whole different thing: first of all, it's not technically corset training, since when they first get the belt at the age of 3 it's not cinching their waist at all, but as they grow up the belt shapes their body differently. But since the body grows extremely slowly, it has all the time to adapt without complications that temporary corsetting would cause.

See, every year the body grows just a little bit, the waist grows up to 1 inch a year on a normal person. At the age of 2-3 the child's waist is about 19 inches, at the age of 10-12 it's around 28 inches, at the age of 20 it's about 35 inches or so on an average person. A year is 365 days, meaning that the waist grows up to 0.003 inches a day. Training to reduce the waist by 0.003 inches a day seems like an extremely soft compression actually.
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:iconroberta-talia:
RoBerTa-talia Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
WTF??
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Chromatik-Fracture Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2014  Student General Artist
Same opinion, you aren't alone in that. I also said, "What the fuck?" LOL. XD
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yuni Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
I beg your pardon?
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RoBerTa-talia Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
Sorry, but that's look so... strange. I mean, boys with wasp waist?? That's horrible! >.<
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:iconyuni:
yuni Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
Thanks for the opinion.
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RoBerTa-talia Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
Same opinion like me?
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ZCEC Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011
i got a corset and am setting out to slim up my waist (for no good reason, just a morbid, needless decision)

though i don't plan on his tiny...great pic/fake!facts!!
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lilaurenthys Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
I've been zoning out over your body modification and contortion paintings for the last day and a half - pretty much since I found your shading tutorial and loved it!

I've always found people who love body modification interesting... not exactly the act itself, but the people who love it! I also love the medical side of body modification; being of medical training I always love to look at the risks and benefits. On top of that, I am an avid tribal and belly dancer and we are notorious for practicing fluidity and flexibility while utilizing a core of yoga for our training.

That being said, I have been wondering about waist cinching in particular and what if any complications or benefits would arise from having this type of practice in a culture. I must ask what their sexual practices are like and how heavy are their physical work loads? I imagine they are mostly vegetarian and such a lifestyle usually requires more muscle mass than hunter/gatherer type peoples - especially if they must irrigate their crops. Food may be scarce, but how hard to they have to work for it?

As for sexual intercourse, are there any special practices? I see influences of other cultures here and while I may be assuming wrong, the possibility of male homosexual relationships seems very high. Mind you I am viewing this fictional culture objectively - I will place no judgement on their rituals, beliefs or practices... I am merely curious. :) Depending on their practices and acceptance of varied sexualities, this may put some at risk for complications.

Males may incur some negative physical side effects from such types of waist cinching like rectal prolapse or simply hemorrhoids, bladder and kidney difficulties and weight lifting limitations (ie: not able to pick up their 3 year old).

Do females bind and if so, what types of restrictions and details go into their binding? I could see that since the practice started as a remedy to poor access to food, both genders would do it but invariably it may cause similar problems in the other gender as well.

The pros of this practice however are quite a few and without any bit of research I can easily see that such a life-style is a pure and clean one, enviable in today's western main stream society. I wouldn't mind a cleansing retreat to their small mountain town... a few months to live as they: gentle, peaceful and whole in mind, body and spirit.
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yuni Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
An imaginary world is more like a dream where something happens first and only much later, when you awake, you realize it would have been absolutely impossible in the "real" world.

However, some women in our world achieved the results depicted here and could keep wearing the corset cinching their waist down to the size of their neck for many years, without having to release the corset at all, maybe only while taking a bath. Ethel Grander and Polaire were some of those women whose waists were just that tiny and they both lived a long life. It's hard to say anything about negative physical side effects, we would have to ask someone who actually practices it, but on the websites and TV shows those people mostly claim that they have a healthy life. Whether it is true or not, we will never know, the effects may vary a lot for different people.

There was this girl back in the 1920s whose mother trained her since she was 15 years old and she always had horrible side effects, however, her mother obliged her to wear the corset and by the age of 20 the girl found out she couldn't bear children anymore because of this training. The stories can be really different.

But whenever someone is undergoing such extreme training it should always be their very own desire to alter the body, if it's their own desire then they're most likely to not have any negative side effects because it's their own body that says "yes, I really want to practice this kind of thing and I know I will love it". It's kind of like an inner feeling, just like yoga: simply relax and let your body do what it wants. Of course, if you already have problems with your liver or kidneys then it's not just not smart to use tight belts.

The practice of waist cinching depicted here could indeed start as a remedy to poor harvests, people would fasten their belts tighter and tighter until centuries later it flourished into a religious ritual, something that was seen as very important. Maybe the extreme waist cinching could only be practiced by monks who served as an inspiration for the rest of their community. The cinching could indeed affect their well being sometimes, but it would be seen by everyone as a self-sacrifice and a noble duty and they would be released from mundane work, just so they could concentrate on their devotion to binding.

Other people in the community would attempt to practice as well, in support of the belief, but without as much devotion, just like regular people are not obliged to be devoted to God as much as the monks. For a monk/nun, it's their primary specialty to be devoted and inspire others. Maybe it could be the same way here.
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logan-alexandria Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2010
It would be oh so interesting to see one of them without the belt on ^^

Maybe a youth on his coming-of-age or something?
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KnightFruit Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2010
lol i just noticed: try saying waist-cinching skirt 3 times fast
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sarahfinnigan Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2009  Hobbyist
To respond to your last paragraph about the reasonability of the slow change-

If it worked that well going that slow...why do animal rescues constantly have trouble with embedded collars? Its the same idea (muscles, esophagus, spine and veins, not much else)but it grows around the collar and creates a horrible injury.

Of course, I understand that it is fiction. I am simply challenging the fact that it would necessarily work without damage.
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yuni Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2009
I do practice wearing a tight belt from time to time just because I want to know how it feels before painting pictures based on it, and I must say the sensation is rather nice and at first I was fearing it would hurt a lot but then I found out that no matter how much I pull while tightening it, it never hurts, it just feels very tight and then reaches the limit at some point. I guess it's because there are no organs except the bowel at the waist level, so it's quite unlike collars, besides animals can't be conscious about wearing their collars.

Anyway, I think if it's part of their culture and an aesthetic standard then they'd definitely come up with many ideas to make it possible, e.g. oils, massage, etc. I actually had in mind that they would find this practice rather pleasurable and would enjoy the build of their figure by the age of 20. But I definitely didn't have in mind to cause any damage and I'd honestly rather hear some ideas that would help to make this practice possible, than claims that it can't be possible because the latter is simply counter-productive.
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sarahfinnigan Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2009  Hobbyist
Well, I certainly don't mean to be counter-productive. Playing devil's advocate with people's ideas helps build them. I can see where oils and other treatments would help.
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Vampire-dreams Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2008
And people think I am thin!

Where is he keeping his organs???
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DJ-Uni-Mekaju Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That...is...amazing. :0 Is it painful when the people take off the cincher? ^^;
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yuni Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2008
I wouldn't think so but it must feel really different :]
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Illahie Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
Coming out of one of my own fairly 'easy going' corsets; [link] is indeed a weird sensation...

But the weirdest ones comes from getting out of Edwardian corsets that alter the position of the ribs into a vase shape; [link] There's just... no words for that sensation.

;)
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DJ-Uni-Mekaju Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
True true! :lol:
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DragonSapphire Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2008
Ohhh, very interesting backstory! I really like how you do cinched waists! ...And everything else LOL
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yuni Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2008
Hehe, I'm so happy you enjoy the cinched waists, it was a pretty common trend 100 years but today it's such a rarity to meet a fan of waist-cinching. It's a really huge compliment :hug:
I have one more Huddic boy I'm working on right now, should be finished soon :]
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DragonSapphire Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2008
The waist cinching tradition is absolutely fascinating! I'm always interested in those kinds of tribal body alterations that may seem or look horrific to outsiders, but really there's such beauty and culture to the practices.

These boys of yours are gorgeous! They make me wanna pull out older characters like bendy little Monarch, or newer ones I haven't gotten around to drawing yet like Samhain who practices neck elongation. :)

You're an inspiration, love. :hug:
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lady-of-crow Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2008
Wouldn’t they have a lot of complications when they stop wearing it after all those years of wearing it? Like the women that starch their necks (or so I’ve been told) or like some of the cases of tight lacing (where they couldn’t support there own weight)? Oh and its nice to see a change in the gender of body manipulation after foot binding, corseting, ect.
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lady-of-crow Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2008
Oh and you talk about that he started when he was young and that’s different with corset, I also just want to point out that in the Victorian era people (both male and female) would start wearing corsets when they were children, starting off un boned for posture and so the girls could get used to it, then the boy would take them off when they got older so they could move about, but the girls would start to lace them tighter and then get bones and you know the rest.
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melyanna Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the crisp lines that define the shape of his torso against the background: for some reasons, I keep staring at them, and feel fascinated.
There's something in his facial expression that doesn't seem totally innocent, to me...
And I love you description, you made sound so real! I like pictures better when there's a solid background behind (in this case I mean a written background, but it could be both :-) )
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ICEQUEEN1988 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2008
0.0003 inches a day?? :| I am tempted to start wearing corsets again! This is really a horror T_T

I am at 66 cm. :| don't know how many inches that is. It doesn't make me feel great tough.. I might have a little problem here..... Oh well >_> organs moving, just sounds so.. Horrible, I can see someone having one singel bloodvain betueen theire ribs and hips *brrr* I just keep my kidney on its place^^..
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
66 cm = 26 inches. You can always check with google, just search for "66 cm in inches" ;P

There's a huge difference though... see, he has started when he was 3 years old and he didn't make his corset smaller, just kept it the same size for years. If you started it, you're already an adult so it's a whole different training ^^ (probably uncomfortable and painful), so well... practically, ALL of my characters who have small waists, started very early and just let their bodies grow differently.
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ICEQUEEN1988 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2008
well Its good for them tough. The painfull days are not my favorite ones.. 26 inches sounds better already^^..

Hmm its very interesting to see how this corsets makes them, how flexible they are.

Anyways I am kind of :w00t: back.
So I can keep a close eye to your awesome arts^^ that makes me happy
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Shelik Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2008
but dont it like weeken the spine or something look painful
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RottingRoot Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
sweet!
i love learning about things like this, i've seen a women on a TV show and she had the smallest waist she could put her hands around it and like hold them together with no problem, she did it with corsets *nods*
and the ppl... i forget which culture it is but they streach their necks out with metal rings, saldy though if they remove them they snap their neck ><

and the chinese use to bind and brake their womens feet! the smaller your foot was the more proper and ah....*thinks* pretty i guess you were ><

:D your image makes me wanna doodle the neck rings though :D must go look up images and what not to do it justice :D
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Darya155 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2008
It seems as if their hipbones stay smaller, as well as their waists XD.
I love the soft features of his face. :]
I also read your journals, and description about this. If this is a gradual change of 0.003 inches a day, then I assume the complications, if there are any, wouldn't be nearly as bad as someone's who did this over a certain period of time. I don't think this would be a painful, torturous practice like the mothers flattening their daughter's breasts using forceful methods. Don't be sorry for creating art. :]
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
Yes, that's how fast the waist grows, 3 years old babies have it around 19", 10 years old at 28", 20 years old at 35" or so. SO of course there's a difference between a person who's doing it since they're 3, and a person who started when they were already an adult, in the latter case it would be really forced and probably even painful or at least uncomfortable, because they have to get smaller and smaller corsets for training (since they're already an adult and their body doesn't grow anymore), while the Huddic person doesn't need a smaller belt, it's ok to just keep wearing the same sized belts for 20 years :] So there's basically no torture action going on...which I guess is different from mothers trying to flatten their girls in a couple of weeks... >.>
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XmalisX Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2008
Whoah, that's weird! I never knew anything about that. I learned something new today, thanks! :D Awesome picture and a very interesting bit of info there. Thanks for sharing. =3
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Aki-Koi Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2008   Traditional Artist
:O ooooooh pretty.
he should grow his hair longer. xD
so i can braid it and wrap it around that cute and tiny waist of his. :heart:
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
Heehee~ that's such a cute thought ^_^
Next time I draw a tiny waist I'll prolly need to use your idea, hope you won't mind XD

:heart:
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Aki-Koi Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008   Traditional Artist
ooh i'd love to see that actually :D
Ooh i was watching america has talent and this little
girl was the cutest 10 yr old contortionist i've ever seen!!
I hope she wins ;~; (but i think the singers will win"
the singers always win xP) aaah but she has little sparkly
mousy ears and gaah xD I want to adopt her. :heart:
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Culturedropout Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2008
Auuurgh! But... the tummy is the best part of a boy...! What an evil practice! *twitch
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Soul-Daemon Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
I think what some people might find disturbing (on some level) arises from a feeling of clostraphobia and inability to breath nor get free. I would say it is emotional baggage, a half forgotten survival instinct that goes back eons.
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008
Yeah, that's because humans are naturally aggressive creatures, but I think that wearing this kind of dress as a spiritual practice might make the person more humble, calm and less aggressive because they'd have to submit to the pressure and learn to work around it like a river finds the way around rocks, instead of acting like a wild animal in a cage. And getting less aggressive could be the right key to spiritual growth, but of course the person needs to be honest about their humbleness, if they just hide their aggression it's just like being a walking time-bomb... But they have 20+ years of practice, so maybe it's long enough to calm down any "bomb"...
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Soul-Daemon Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
intresting, tho i dont see us humans as naturally agressive, i see them more like the terrified little mammals they evolved from, deep down inside, that when confronted by something they cant deal with their biology takes over and their primordial lizard like instinct kicks in.
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Feathers-of-Love Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008
Really, I do not find this to be the slightest disturbing - at all! I find it to be a highly fascinating piece and anthropological study performed through art, of how the ideals of beauty are different between cultures, and even among people. It illustrates the notion of "beauty is on the eyes of the beholder" and that - that - I find to be utterly amazing and of course fascinating.

Keep your imagination, integrity and individuality intact! Pieces like these are refreshing for minds to behold, mind which have been starved of content in this superficial world of today.

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dragonflame327 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008
Beautiful as always. I must ask though...wouldn't the waist eventually go back to its natural shape once the belt is taken off?
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
Thank you so much! And yes, probably so, but it will remain somewhat thin, specially if the person doesn't change his/her eating habits, which is unlikely since you get used to eat just as much as you really need when wearing a corset/belt, and if it's a 20 years long practice then eating properly becomes part of your life and when the belt is taken off you naturally keep being thin (hopefully).
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dragonflame327 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
Oh, so it's more than just the belt? Eating habits are also...altered to get the desired results?
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2008
Well, you naturally start eating less I think...
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dragonflame327 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2008
That doesn't make any sense though if the stomach is simply displaced.
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yuni Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2008
I only tell you what I've heard from those who wear corsets ;P
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dragonflame327 Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2008
Ahhh. XD I'm curious now though...have you tried contortionism or corsetting yourself?
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DarkerSideoftheMoon Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2008   Photographer
This is amazing! I've never seen anything quite like this before! You just never know what you'll learn on any given day. Despite what some people say, I find this fascinating. Yes it can be quite disturbing, but one must also realize that it is not our culture. At first sight it is disturbing, but them one simply must wonder how it is even possible even when it is self explainatory.

Once again you did a fabulous job, Yuni. It kind of reminds me of the women in Indonesia (or somewhere around there, I can never remember) who have these brass coils put about their neck at a small age and each year they add another loop to enlongate their neck
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